When I make them to the specifications found in a fitting. Patrick retuned to pick up the NEW Wishon 565s and the New KBS 105 shafts set. I finished them off with some old school Winn Excel grips. I have to say this is one of my new favorites from a design perspective. I like overall look at a glance, I like that all the corners are rounded. I like the sole has soft edges. I really like the weight in the middle although a bit old school. I think it looks great. Then install a lighter stiff shaft that makes for a boring ball flight and all is good in the world. Capped off with the softer wrapped style grip and you have one nice set of irons. Thanks Again Patrick and Enjoy